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PostSubject: Irish ornamentation   Sat May 24, 2008 11:40 am

I am just begining to learn the basics of Tin Whistle type ornamentation. I mean I read about it a year ago, and did some practice lessons, but never really worked them into my regular playing because I had so much other learning to do.

Recently I noticed that some of the same ornaments are used in middle east playing, but somehow they make a whole different accent. Fascinating. Suspect
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PostSubject: Re: Irish ornamentation   Sat May 24, 2008 7:40 pm

The terms "strikes" "shivers" and "crans" are used for Irish/Scottish ornamentation. The Clark Tin Whistle Tutor is a very good beginners kit. This includes recorded examples of dozens of tunes you can follow along in the booklet. It would be applicable to simple flutes as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Irish ornamentation   Sat May 24, 2008 7:54 pm

I 've been following the online lessons produced by Fordham University and put together by Ryan Duns. Although personally I prefer the more melodic and less frenetic English tunes, his lessons have really brought me along.

He uses the terms hit, cut, roll and slide, how do these relate to the terms you mentioned?
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PostSubject: Re: Irish ornamentation   Sun May 25, 2008 7:55 pm

Most are semantics. A Hit = Strike, a Cran is a 3 note triplett. A shiver is a Bagpipe term for quick partial tonehole covering giving vibrato etc. These terms are discriptive of ornamentation "moves". They take a lifetime to master. I prefer the "Slow Airs" with little ornamentation myself.
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PostSubject: Re: Irish ornamentation   Sun May 25, 2008 8:43 pm

So a cran is probably a "Roll".

Yeah, I no longer have the pulse rate for a lot of the kind of playing you can see on YouTube, I'll leave that for the young show-offs 8-)

Not that there's anything wrong with that, but I play to relax, not as a caffine substitute.
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PostSubject: Re: Irish ornamentation   Mon May 26, 2008 6:54 pm

A cran is a piping ornament to roll the bottom D/bell note of a chanter, whistle or flute (although folks sometimes cran or do a cran-like ornament on the E as well). They make a similar sound, but are performed differently.

A roll involves a "cut" above the note being rolled followed by a "tap" below. Since there are no notes below the bell note to "tap" (obviously as all of your fingers are down covering all the holes), you can't really do a "proper" roll on it. You can mimic the sound of a roll though by using multiple cuts - and so the cran was born.
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