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PostSubject: Cooperman fifes   Fri May 23, 2008 8:38 pm

I live near Cooperman's workshop and have been over there several times. I own a persimmon fife and a couple other cheap pipes and whistles.

I was wondering if there was any general comment on their higher end fifes from someone that may own one. I have gotten to the point where I can play fairly well and am thinking about moving up from a beginners flute to something more of an investment.

Of course my main reason for playing them is to see how it is done. I usually play my side blown flutes.
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PostSubject: Re: Cooperman fifes   Tue May 27, 2008 2:47 pm

Cooperman Fifes and are recommended by the American Flute Guild as well as My favorite, the Abell Line of Instruments. Please have a look at this site...

http://www.americanfluteguild.com/makers/fifes.html

Choosing a fife is like having a child. You don't know what you're going to get and when you do, you have to let the new relationship develop with patience. Each instrument has an "Individual" personality. Basic requirements can be chosen, such as a large embouchure with a sharp angle of attack for fast octave changes or a conical bore for reedy tone color etc.

What kind of personality traits are you looking for in a Fife/Flute? I find that a Renaissance Circular Embouchure is the easiest for a beginner to learn on. It stabilizes the pitch for a newbie's lack of breath control and helps develop a focused "lip" technique needed with a larger embouchure.


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PostSubject: Re: Cooperman fifes   Tue May 27, 2008 2:56 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Cooperman fifes   Tue May 27, 2008 3:07 pm

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What kind of personality traits are you looking for in a Fife/Flute?
Truthfully, I suspect I play a fife more like a flute. I use the first register more than my reading suggests that fife players normally do, and I never go to the third register... yet.

My problem with my persimmon is that it is hard to get the fundamental as it tends to break to the next register (more practice might help) which is worse than not playing at all. It is better than my other transverse flutes in that the switch from top of the first register to bottom of the second register is very smooth, no change in timbre.

Of course, compared to my ceramic whistles, these are just as you say, part of the personality. I have to use a lot more control to keep a note on mine, but I guess I sort of expect transverse flutes to be easier to play.
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PostSubject: Re: Cooperman fifes   Tue May 27, 2008 4:59 pm

Instruments that "break" easy from the fundamental to the next register are using a "trade off" conical angle to balance the 3rd register. You can try to adjust the flute plug (pull it out a little) to gain more acoustic resonance in the first register. A Fife/Flute plug is adjusted to "favor" a particular register and then leaves the player to compensate for minor frequency shift of the other registers with "breath control".

The area between the embouchure hole and the plug face is a essentially a "tunable panpipe tube". The "break" frequency is tuned with the plug as a "sympathetic resonance". Moving the plug a little closer to the voicing will favour higher registers and pulled out to favor the fundamental register. The formula for the mid-balance point is...

7 X (D/6) = Distance from embouchure center to plug face
D = Diameter of bore at the embouchure.

This measurement can be marked on the tip of your cleaning rod and used to push the plug into position. When the mark is at the center of the embouchure window, you have the plug adjusted correctly.


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PostSubject: Re: Cooperman fifes   Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:31 am

I've been contemplating this, because I believe it has import to my side blown pipes. I know that you have to hold your mouth differently for each note using my pipes, and I figured it was partly due to something like this. With a low note, I can feel the vibration inside my mouth. If I accidentally finger the wrong note, it won't play until I readjust my mouth, giving the low notes more room, cutting back on the space in my mouth for the high notes.
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